84. Making The Weekly Review Work For You

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Morten: Hi, and welcome to another episode of the Getting Things Done podcast from Vital Learning. I am Morten Røvik, and as always, I'm here with my good friend and colleague Lars Rothschild Henriksen. Privet, Lars. Privet.

Lars: Mr. Røvik. Good to see you as always, and hello to our listeners out there. We always start off with a quick reminder of the purpose of this podcast, which is to help you learn GTD or become even better GTDers. So we hope that today's episode supports you in that. If you are new to GTD, we always recommend you go back and listen to episodes 1 through 6 to get an introduction to the basics of GTD, the 5 steps. And today's episode is number 84 of the podcast, and the topic of the day is making the weekly review work for you.

Morten: Indeed, we have a very interesting episode for you, and, um, I hope that you will enjoy it. We are going to talk about how we are adapting the things we need to see when we need to see it during our weekly review. And Lars and I do not have the same ideas about everything, so this is going to be an interesting episode. Um, so I'm going to challenge you, Lars, because you and I We talked in the pre-show that we have different aspects. You need to see different things at different time. So, you create segmented lists that are separated from the others lists, other lists for your weekly review. So, can you just give us an overview of which lists you are using?

Lars: Yeah, sure. So, I have my customized weekly review checklist in OneNote. And, um, we always recommend you start off with the 11 steps that you have from GTD. I have those as well. And then I have different headings. So I have a standard GTD heading. I have a heading that's called my adaptations for the, for the weekly review. Then I have a heading for the weekly review, the last one in each month where I do a slightly bigger review. And I have one that is quarterly and one that is every 6 months as well. Just a few other checks on, on that one. So that's sort of the headings in there. I just use the checkbox that you can set up in OneNote. So Command+1 on the Mac if that's what you're using. I think Control+1 if you're on Windows. Just so I have those little checkboxes that I can mark as done as I walk through the weekly review. And yeah, that works really well for me. Where do you have yours?

Morten: Well, my weekly review list is in Reminders. People who follow the and subscribe to the podcast, which of course we recommend you do, will remember that I use it in Reminders and that it's set up there as a recurring list that when I finished it off, it will come back the week after. So, and but your lists are I'm curious for you to tell us about how you segment your list. What goes where?

Lars: Well, that's basically what I need to see at which times. So things might have migrated around over time and some have shown up on a weekly basis, started to move to a monthly basis, things like that. So it really, yeah, they're all split out as to what I want to see at which times I want to want to see them.

Morten: And if you've not done this already and are thinking about what lists are they talking about, well, we're talking about the weekly review checklist that you can find. I think if you wanted to have something, you know, have them, the best way to do that is to go to gettingthingsdone.com and click store and then buy what we call the GTD System Guides. You can do the same thing at Vital Learning DK and Vital title Learning NO and buy, if you're in Norway or Denmark, to buy the, the system guides. They have this checklist written out, and what we are talking about today is what will you add or subtract from that list, and how do you reorder the things, and how can you feel good about the things you need to get done when you're on, you know, when you need to reflect on them to make sure they are off your mind. So, it's, I'm not mistaken, that's also in your, you know, the Vital Learning DK. I'm not telling a lie now.

Lars: Yeah, I'm correct. Should be in there. Yeah. And that's really, that was my starting point to take the 11 standard steps from GTD and start to tweak that a bit. So that's the top of my list is the standard 11 steps. One of the ways that I have adapted it is to, I have a recommendation for myself. Myself, I'll be honest to say, I don't follow it very often, but just a quick walk around just without music, just to clear my head and get ready for it. Then get that good cup of coffee, head on over to Do Not Disturb, start my weekly review playlist, and then I'll start off with the 11 standard steps. Do you have any sort of pre, pre, pre steps that you do before your weekly review?

Morten: Yes, yes, I have. What I do is that I always, or if I can, always, what is always, almost always, I will make sure that I do not disturb is the first thing I do. I don't do the clear my head because I, you know, I just have to motivate me to do this. By the way, the way I motivate myself is that that list is called weekly review done. Equals happy Morten and a smiley face. I'm that simple. But that really helps. And it really helps me stay in that mode. And to do the do not disturb mode makes it easier for me to, you know, do not get distracted because I'm very easily distracted. I'm very high associative and I need everything I can to make sure I'm not deviating from my plan, which I often, too often do. But that's part of the way I'm put together. That's why I'm telling my coaching clients, don't beat yourself up. Do a light one if you can't do a full one. You will feel better either way. But yeah, so it's a little messy. I don't know, but just let's take a step back. Is it messy for you as well, Loris?

Lars: Yeah, I would say so. It really varies. You know, sometimes if the weeks have been really busy, there'll be a lot of things to follow up on. It'll take longer for me to do. I have my block in my calendar, but I might run out of time in some cases. So in that sense, it can be, I wouldn't maybe not say messy, but not as straightforward as I wish it might have been. So, but I'm sure people out there can recognize that as well, that with all the best intentions, sometimes those weeks have been a bit busy and that just means that your weekly review will take a bit longer.

Morten: Yeah, we are human beings. And one of the things that happens to me, that's because for those of you who have listened to us, we refer to something called Kairos, which is a test that we Lars and I have taken, and all the trainers take them, take it, Kairos Cognition Survey. I'm sure Lars will put a link in the show notes for this. Lars, that was your cue to make a link. How did you know? But this is an online test we take, and I use it for all my coaching clients. It helps us It's kind of like, are you left-handed or right-handed? Are you, or are you ambidextrous? So you can use both your hands equally. And this, and on this scale of being, we have different scales for this. When you look at the getting things done, it's highly sequential, a lot of it. The only not sequential part is capture, which is very free-form. You just put yourself in free gear and let your brain empty your head. Write down whatever shows up that you might want to do something about or will do something about or worry about, and then just get it out of your head. But to clarify and organize and to do the weekly review, which is the 3 middle steps of Getting Things Done, is highly sequential. And for me, that is not very easy. Because I go down rabbit holes and I would rather do something else. I don't know. Has that ever happened to you, Loris?

Lars: Once, I think I can remember back. No, of course it happens to me as well. Of course it does. Yeah. And it can be, it can be hard, you know, and then especially with my list, there are, you know, a lot of steps on my list and I want them to be there because that's when I want to be reminded about them. But obviously that is a long list that can feel overwhelming. Overwhelming sometimes when my mind wants me to run in a different direction sometimes.

Morten: Yeah. And therefore, when I did this by the book, using the steps in the order that they are listed in the suggestions for the weekly review, and that really did not work for me. I didn't understand why was this so difficult. But even I reordered this. It makes a lot more sense to me, like clarify emails, private and work-related emails to zero. And then that I can't do early because then a lot of new things shows up. So I have to get my ducks in a row before I open my email, or I will be sucked into doing something. Oh, I know how to do that. Let's, let me just procrastinate my My weekly review and do something else. So, people, I don't know if you hear this, but Lars and I are fairly well-versed in the Getting Things Done methodology. And I'm sure you will recognize some of the things that we struggle with as your struggles as well. So, I hope that we bring a little humanity to the idea of getting things done and doing the weekly review. But should we just walk through the order that we have them on? That might be a good idea.

Lars: Sure.

Morten: You want to walk through yours first? Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. I will go first. So my order is the first is Do Not Disturb on my mobile and Mac. So it automatically migrates. If I do one, it will happen, go to the others. And I have a specific focus mode set up for this on my iPhone. So that means nobody And I mean, nobody can get through to me. It's like everything is shut down. I need that. Don't give me a distraction. I will not be able to resist. And then the first thing I do is check my calendar one week until the last weekly review, and then 2, 3, 4 weeks ahead, depending on how I feel and what I think might be hiding there in the future, and see if there's something I need to to capture and, you know, prepare or something that shows up in the future. And then I'm looking through my desired outcomes and my next actions associated to them. So I'm making sure I have a next action on all my active projects. I divided those into private projects or private desired outcomes and work-related desired outcomes. And then I have something, and this is— I know Lars don't do it this way, but I do this. I look over my, what I call my main targets for 2023, things I want to achieve during the year that is not projects as such, but I have projects that are alluding to them, or, or, or not alluding, it's They are inside. How can I say this?

Lars: Steps on the way, maybe?

Morten: Yeah, or it's more like main targets where I have a project I want to do this, I want to achieve this year, and I have 5 maybe small projects listed too, and they can be, you know, past projects as well, but they will finalize my main targets. And I do this once a month, but it says look over the targets for 2023 once a month and reflect over them. And I open— there's a link to that document. And when the first Friday of the month is, I will do that. Just, that's just how I roll. I don't separate that to a specific list because I only have maybe 2 of them that I do this with. Then I look over my areas of responsibilities and see if I made a list of that.. And I ask myself, are they maintained at a standard that I'm happy with? Then I go to— I organize— sorry, I clarify and organize my inbox in the Reminders app, because I capture things all the time. And I want to make sure I am, you know, making sure that I'm doing progress on the most important things. And I need to, of course, make that inbox empty as all the others. Then I have a physical in-tray I need to clarify to zero. Then I empty my read-in folder and then clarify that, empty my wallet, and then do a mental, you know, mind sweep. Then I am clarifying, organizing the mind sweep.. And I have a Remarkable notebook, a digital notebook, which I then have a little item for myself: look through Remarkable for updated notebooks, look after something that's not captured. Like I have a tendency, or I have a— I more or less religiously make a square in front of things I need to do something about, or if a client promises something I am waiting for.. And that is in the Remarkable. I have to make sure that that is not lost. And then I copy old notebooks from the Remarkable to my Devinthink library. So that, for instance, when I close the book on a coaching client, we're finished with the closing— sorry, with the coaching— I put that PDF in the coaching notes so that if we pick up later, I can get back to what did we talk about last time. And then I— then we come to private email, clarify to empty, and clarify work email to empty. And then I have a big task that normally takes quite a while, is to go through Pipedrive. Pipedrive is our CRM system, and update activities and remind people if I have a waiting for for someone who's, you know, a client, an offer for a client that didn't get back to me. Then I have some Zapier automations. One of the things I offer my clients is that if you are finishing or at the end of finishing a coaching with me, would you like me to follow you up on the most important KPIs for your— where your Achilles heels are in your GTD practice, where I can tell you that, for instance, you can make a report to to me every week, every day, you choose. Once a week is not, you know, after you've done your weekly review, how did it go, for instance. And I have to go and look through if all of them have committed to send me a reminder, have done so. If not, there is a very short email going ping. It actually says ping with an exclamation mark and just send, for they will understand that. Morton want to follow him up. And then I have, I have my Memento Mori calendar here for remembering that I am actually not going to live forever. And there's another square for a week that needs to be ticked off, and then I am off the do not disturb, and I'm— the world can then invade me again. So that's my fairly long weekly review checklist. Yeah. Cool. How does, how does your.

Lars: Look like, Lars? If I were to go through all of them, we would need a.

Morten: Bit more time. Give us some, well, you can, could you do the normal one and add, you know, so that we can see the extent of the normal one?

Lars: Yeah, I think, well, what I would highlight is, you know, I had the pre-steps that we already mentioned now. And then I have the 11 standards steps in the standard sequence in my list. One adaptation that I have made here is that I have added some, you know, specified a few places that I need to remember to look. So for example, getting into zero, well, which inboxes might that be? And, you know, as time progresses, I have switched inboxes to, you know, some different applications, for example. So I'll be sure to note down which inboxes that I want to get to zero as part of the weekly review. That also goes for reviewing the action list, because as you just mentioned, we have our CRM system, and that also plays into us as an action list for me. I also have started to use the Apple Reminders application for some things. So errands, for example, will be placed in the Reminders app. My personal system is now in the Reminders app. So, so I need to be sure to go over there and check as well. The last adaptation that I have made to the standard list is to— well, it's kind of silly, but it's, you know, when it says to review your projects and larger outcome lists, I need to write in big letters to myself, stop and think about the projects. I am so tempted to just, oh, that's right, I do that one, I do that one. And, you know, I can walk through them too quickly. And I want to make sure that I stop, I want to make sure that I actually think about them. How am I doing? Do we need to communicate something to someone? Is there any support material relating to the project that I need to go in and check? Because I really had a tendency to scroll through that projects list too quickly. And part of the value for me is really to slow down and really, really look at that projects list and really think, think through. So not that it necessarily takes a long time, but take, you know, 20 seconds instead of 2 or whatever the number might be. That's part of the, those adaptations. I don't know if you've come across.

Morten: Coaching clients like me who feel like crawling across. I just look in the mirror. I can.

Lars: Relate to that. Oh, good to hear that. And then I have added, so on a weekly basis, I have added a few, like I said, I have a headline. Headline 1 in OneNote. And then some different reminders to myself, for example, stuff I want to consider doing on a weekly basis or habits that I'm working on implementing. And it could be, you know, very basic stuff like watering the plants. So that's sort of the— that's the way to spot if I haven't done my weekly review in too long, then you'll see the plants behind me being brown. That's the sign. Now you know. Also in this transitional phase that we've spoken about a number of times now, part of it is a lot more communication. So it's a lot easier to work on your own. And as soon as you have just one more person with you, then there's a communication aspect that I really need to be much better at keeping in mind. So I have, for example, a reminder to myself, should I send a note to others in the company if something happened this week that they should know about? So that's part of sort of a, that's a good one. Just helpful.

Morten: Question for myself.

Lars: I'm saying that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I know it's, it's been really, really helpful for me and it's something that I'm really working on and I imagine that it'll be there for the next 6 months and then at some point I will feel comfortable enough that this reminder will surface based on looking at my areas of focus because that's where we have the, the employees and trainers listed in there. So, so at some point it should transition from there, but that's an example of something that I want to be reminded about. Another one, another example, and I hope, you know, everyone out there listening or watching that this is sort of just ideas to throw at you. And then, you know, these might not be applicable specifically to you, but perhaps there are things in your life that you might want to be reminded about on a weekly or monthly or yearly basis, whatever it might be. One that I have on my list as well, take better breaks, be better at taking breaks, no music, head on out after lunch and you just know, stretch your legs, be better at that because I really suck at that. And also just reflection questions like, has there been something that happened this week where my perfectionism worked against me?

Morten: In that case, or your desire for.

Lars: A high level of perfection. Exactly. Exactly. Because it's so, so easy to still be caught on the, caught in that and fighting the right level and continuously evaluating that level, also considering all the things going on. Because there, you know, when I have more time, I have more time to polish things and make them even nicer. And in some cases, I need to adjust that in times that are when things are moving fast, like they, like they are right now. And the last step in my weekly review is to open my weekly review folder with different bookmarks that I I get as my little treat for finishing a weekly review. So this is a series, I think 7 or 8 different bookmarks that I have in a folder. So I'll open them in tabs and that's sort of my reward for completing the weekly review.

Morten: Okay. Just out of curiosity, what websites are.

Lars: You rewarding yourself with? These are, and I don't use Twitter much anymore, but I used to be more active there. So many of them are searches on Twitter. For different, you know, getting things done topics. So just a social media snack, I would say, is probably the best characterization.

Morten: Also, yeah, now, you know, we are getting back.

Lars: To snacking now. And also the GTD Connect forums is actually a place that I visit on a weekly basis. So I'll go in there and read what people have been talking about. So that's part of the reward for.

Morten: Me as well on a weekly basis. What is interesting is that you are choosing rewards that attract you, and that's important. I don't know what attracts the listener or the viewer here, but find something that you feel you can reward yourself. You can do this after, but not during. Just that the after thing there, it's helpful. It's like a carrot.

Lars: And we've talked about— Very nice carrot.

Morten: Very sweet chocolate-covered carrot. Yeah, I don't want the carrot. You ruined my carrot metaphor here. But I remember we talked about this earlier, is that when, about regarding emails, is that you, before, you used to snack on emails. Email snacking was your pastime, your, but it wasn't, if I understood you correctly, that was not like a reward, but it was something you did just to do. Because it felt good, I think.

Lars: Yeah, it's so interesting. It's always, always, I'm sure there's something interesting right now as we record. There might be something interesting. Oh yeah. Don't stop listening to the podcast. Stay with the podcast.

Morten: Don't check your email. Yeah, well, that's good. And then I don't know if you're ready to switch gears a little bit. You have, that's not weekly.

Lars: But, you know, quarterly, Monthly would be the first step. So just, you know, on a monthly basis, I follow the usual recommendation to review your areas of focus. So I'll open that in MindNode, asking the same questions that you mentioned. I'm also reflecting on, you know, do any of the areas need more attention? Do I need to adjust my system accordingly if I want to reorganize a bit based on areas of focus, for example? And also specifically, in relation to what we just spoke about, check the, the trainer agenda lists. So I have agenda lists for the different trainers. Is there anything that I need to follow up on now? Because, you know, I'll typically spot it when I walk through and check my next actions list because the agenda list would be part of that. But just as an extra safety net for me, I have that question in there. Then I have my yearly checklist. So one of the recommendations from the Level 2 seminar is to have that yearly checklist. I love that list. It's so much fun to look at. So that is really a reward. Yeah, that, that's, that shows how nerdy we are, or I am at least. But it really is a— I wonder what's going to happen and, you know, what kind of fruits will, you know, can we expect to eat at the summer house in the next month or whatever it might be. There's so much, so much nice stuff on there. So that's one I always always look at. And then, um, the next one I have is sort of a block of things. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 different items that I actually copy into my system with a due date to be the first of the next month. So I do this as the last Friday in a month. So actually today as we record this episode, and I'll put them in there. And these are different activities relating to royalty work that we have with the franchise. It could be updating the photo albums that we— I make for the boys. So every month I'll go through and pick out the best photos that we took of them or videos, and we'll have the one for each year. So something for them to have as they grow older. So I have that to be added to my system as well. And I think the last two that I wanted to highlight, yeah, one on a personal level, just one where my sister has her own line in my little checklist. Have we spoken? Have we been good at visiting them recently? How are they doing? Is there anything we should offer to help them with? Go visit them, whatever it might be. It's just a nice reminder and we're heading there tomorrow. So I can check that off today as well. All good. But I like having it there. And again, this could surface from reviewing your areas of focus. But for me, I like to just have it as a a special point for me to a point of interest or whatever you might, might call it. Last one I have is actually a list relating to kind of relating to you as well. So as we have our yearly reviews business-wise, I have a note to reflect on whether I completed a project this month that I need to record as a win for the year. I think that's how I would translate it. So actually maintain a small list of, you know, the different, oh, it's right, pretty cool. We will do the first you know, next month we'll do the first seminars in Greenland. In 2 months, I think I'll be heading to the Faroe Islands to do a speech and perhaps a seminar. And, you know, new things that we haven't done before, new, you know, special clients or new trainers or whatever it might be. So I have that. And that's also who— yeah, exactly. So again, this will not be sort of a boring checklist, but this is actually, you know, a nice Yeah, cool. Nice, nice win for the month. So that's, I think those are the ones that I would highlight. I have a few more and many of them are just, you know, quick reflection questions, sort of a safety net kind of thing. Not something that I do spend a lot of time on, but just, you know, things I want to be reminded about.

Morten: Yeah. And I just want to make clear for the listener is that these are lists that are checklists that Lars checks at intervals he decided himself. He needs to see what he needs to see to make meaningful progress on the most important things. To be reminded of what is— the most important things are often comprised of small actions, small things you need to do to have success on whatever you want to have success on. And in the pre-show, we talked about that you have a reminder. Was it monthly or quarterly that you buy flowers for your wife? And I had a little of a laugh because— Consider buying flowers. Consider. No, I don't know. This, we have a different system at home is that if there's no fresh flowers, roses is to be bought. So it will be a reminder on my reminders app when I leave the office.

Lars: Don't.

Morten: Tell my wife. My wife has fresh flowers every week and she loves it. I will not talk.

Lars: We will not tell you.

Morten: Okay.

Lars: Yeah. Yeah.

Morten: No.

Lars: Please don't. No, we will not. But yeah, then on a quarterly basis, I'll have some different reminders, you know, reflections on the system. Do I have the right lists? Again, these are reflections that could show up on a weekly basis. Sometimes they will, and I'll just change my system ad hoc, but just to remind myself not to get stuck with the list I have just because I have them. Really want to make sure that this is a very dynamic and flexible GTD system that I use. And it could also be things like, you know, different gift certificates. So I'll have a list in, it's a table in OneNote, list of the different gift certificates that we have received and the expiry date. So I hate when they run out. Absolutely hate that. So I have that as a checklist. So, you know, I'll look ahead 3 months, which do we need to get, you know, used before they expire and I'll catch them in that sense. And it could be also, you know, the last one I wanted to highlight, of course, I check Horizon 3. So goals and vision and I'll I'll actually sometimes go all the way up to Horizons 4 and 5 as well. And also, you know, on a personal level, what do I do today that makes my wife happy? Little things like that, because I've just noted over time that some of the nice things that I used to do, we kind of forgot. So I want to make sure that I stick to the ones that I at least want to stick to. And also goals like we want to, you know, do something. We have two boys. We agreed a few years back that we want to be really good at also doing something with them individually. They don't always have to be together. We don't always have to do everything together. They'll have different interests and stuff they want to do. So just a reminder to myself, is there anything that I would want to do differently with either of the boys? I think those are sort of.

Morten: The key ones. Now I have just one list that I didn't mention that's in my system that I also, I check it more sporadically, but it is, and it's not as an item. For my weekly review, but I have a list called ideas for nice things to do together with my wife. Yeah. Yeah. So if I, if I, for instance, I have on my list now, I'm reading, so visit the Theater Café. It's a very nice café in Oslo because with Laleh, we passed there once and she said, oh, that looks nice. And I think, okay. That's cool. Captured. And it was a note to myself in my— and Siri reminded me to— and another thing that I want to take her to the parliament. So possibilities for us to get inside there and just watch our politicians work. And I think that she will be appreciative of that. And then I found an article about 20 free cultural experiences you can see in Oslo. And I scanned that and put it in reminders so that I can, when I feel I want to do something, I can go there and just pick something. So next A couple of weeks from now, we will go and see the new Munch Museum for Edvard Munch in Oslo. So that's a way to be reminded of what I need to be reminded of and I need to be reminded of it. So to do a good job as.

Lars: A husband and as a person. Yeah. No, and it's just so nice to have those lists. And again, good examples, I think, for the listeners to reflect on. Is there anything that they want to perhaps build in there because I just, you know, as you mentioned that I looked at my, my list as well and there was one reminder about using the next time in list. So it's not something that I use very often. I don't maintain them a lot because I don't get much input that needs to go on those lists. But that also means that I might have a tendency to forget it. And, you know, perhaps this year there will be quite a few travels, I think. So it might be a good, again, reminder to check those lists and see if there was anything fun that I noted down that we might want to see if we go to some specific country or place?

Morten: I have a folder, a physical folder from a few years back called Nice Things to Do in London for next time in London. That is a very dangerous list to look at because then I want to travel quickly. I love London. It's a beautiful city and, you know, very interesting, nice place to be. I have good friends there as well, so it's good to be, you know, be reminded to visit them. So, um, I think I've come to the end of what I wanted to talk about. Do you have something you would like to add?

Lars: No, I think the last wrap-up for me would be that I have that half-year review that we spoke about where, you know, the different horizons come into, come into play. But these are sort of the, some of the key components in, in weekly review that then differs on a weekly, monthly, quarterly basis. And just hopefully an episode for the listeners and viewers to reconsider how they do their weekly review. And, you know, coming back to the title of the episode is really making it work for you. That is what it's all about. So be sure to, you know, go back in there, tweak that list, make it work for you. That's what.

Morten: It'S all about. One of the things I would like to mention for the listeners, I know that a lot of listeners, people who start with GTD, have a tendency to act as the Getting Things Done book is religion. And with that, I mean, when I tell them, you know, rearrange your checklist for your weekly review, and they say, can I do that? What is that? Yes, it's not religion. It's a framework for getting things off your mind and making sure it stays off your mind. If you think that things are off your mind and you feel good about them and you feel not stressed and you are able to focus on one thing at a time, if that's what you want to do, to be present in the moment, this is what getting things done is about. Not about doing things in a specific order.

Lars: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, and again, I've come across that specifically with the weekly review checklist. Can I change that? Can I, can I add to that? Yeah, absolutely. Go, go, you know, try and figure.

Morten: Out what works best. Yeah, yeah. But, but the things, the things that you need to remember when it comes to doing a weekly review is to just make sure that you What we— I think we started with this: see what you need to see, at which point to feel good about what you are not doing at the moment, right now. It's a good way of phrasing it. I phrased it a little differently in the beginning, but what you need to see when you need to see it to feel good about what you're not doing, it helps you make sure that, okay, I can calibrate my course so that You know, I need to do something differently. Now we are getting close to this deadline. What do I need to do to feel good about what I'm not doing right now, to feel good about what I will do in the future? I think that's, that's what it's all about. Okay, Lars, will you take us.

Lars: Out? Maybe, maybe. We always wrap up with a quick reminder for you to head on over to vitallearning.eu because on that site you will find information about all the different offerings that we have in the different countries, all about Getting Things Done, but also Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue, Crucial Conversations, the Accountability Seminar, The Power of Habit, Influencer Seminar. Everything is over there. If you're outside the Nordics, head on over to cruciallearning.com to find your local partners. And also a quick reminder about the summer camp. GTD Summer Camp 2023 is planned June 17th to 18th. Head on over to gtdsommercamp.com to sign up, and Morten will be there. I will be there.

Morten: We hope to meet you there. Indeed. And just a little, a little extra about the summer camp is that it is at cost. We work for free. We work, we are there for, you know, from our own engine. We pay for our own trips. We do this summer camp for you, the listener of this podcast, and any other person who understands that there is a summer camp. Come see us, hang out with us, talk GTD nerd, and get your GTD system worked at so you get better at it. That's why we are doing this. And, Lawrence, just quickly, how many seats is.

Lars: It this year? Well, we will see, actually. We have, for now, we have set up the early bird pricing and we have set that up to be 40 participants. And I think we are about 3/4 of the way there. So yeah, don't wait too long. And also, I would add that this year there'll be plenty of time to work on your own system and, you know, share your best tips and tricks and learn from the others. And lastly, I would add, yes, we do it for you, but I also do it for myself. It's a lot of fun to hang out with all the GTDers out there. Community is so good. Yeah, it is really, really cool. So if you have the opportunity, be.

Morten: Sure to join us. GTDers are the nicest people in the world. Come hang out with another, you know, a lot of other nice people. So, and I would like to give you a little something you could think about. Don't think very long. If you're looking at this from a video, please subscribe if you feel that you want to and hit that notification bell to be notified. Like if you also like to, for others to find us on the YouTube, YouTubers can find us out there. If you're on audio listening to us, consider subscribing so that you don't miss an episode. And if you want to rate us well. Please do if you're happy with what we are delivering you. We hope that our mission is to give you something that can help you change your life to the better, and we think Getting Things Done is a good vehicle for helping doing that. And if you have value from this, please consider rating us and like and subscribe and comment, comment on all that. Thank you. Okay, Lars, this is the first time we did this little extra something with subscribe. We are at the end, aren't we?

Lars: I think so.

Morten: Only one thing left to say. Yes. All you listeners out there and Lars, stay safe and stay productive. Bye-bye, guys. Bye, everyone.

Lars: Bye-bye.